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I was reading some articals online and came across this.

"On April 20, 1999, one of the most tragic events in the history of the United States occured at Columbine High School in Colorado.

Two students named Eric Harris and Dylan Kleibold brought many weapons and ammo to their school and opened fire. For hours they went around the school kiling and wounding many in the process. The two had also set up a couple propane bombs before school started (how they didnt get caught doing that is beyond my comprehension). Fortunately the bombs failed to detonate, which may have saved the lives of countless people that day.

As most of us know, after a standoff with police, Harris and Kleiblod took their own lives. The two gunman killed thirteen innocent people that day and wounded many more.

Now what does this have to do with Doom?

Well appearantly, Harris and Kleibold were hardcore players of the game and Harris allegedly mad a mod that copied the Columbine High School layout, complete with representatons of teachers and classmates and that they would use it to practice for the killings. While planning the massacre, Harris allegedly stated that it "would be like fucking Doom."

Although Harris DID make mods for Doom, none of them were found to have resembled the layout of Columbine in any way. But them damage was done. Many school shootings now-a-days are blamed on video games like Doom and Counter-Strike, with critics (like our good old buddy Jack Thompson) calling these games "murder simulators."

After the Virginia Tech massacre, Jack Thompson claimed that gunman "trianed" on Counter-Strike in High School. A claim that was proven to be absolutly false. Although Cho (the gunman)had played Counter-Strike, he didnt play it often. And even after the Northern Illinois shootings this earlier this year, Thompson blamed the incodent on video games.

Many people play these games everyday and not once have they ever thought about shooting up their school or workplace. Most people can play these games and distinct reality from virtual reality. But I have found that you can not blame video games for school shootings.

Now there is one "exception" (and use that term loosely) On February 19, 1997, 16-year-old Evan Ramsey shot and killed the principal and and another student at his high school in Alaska. He said he didnt realize that when you shoot someone they die. He said that because he played video games like Doom hardcore and says he could not distinguish reality from virtual reality. He is now serving a 210 year sentence,

Keep in mind that Ramsey's father had held up a bank a few years before the school shooting. His father got a ten year prison sentence for armed robbery. So maybe Evan decided to do what his father did, except Evan killed people. (I hope that makes sense)

Now what are the actual causes of school shootings. Well bullying, bad parenting, schools administrations (i.e. principals) for not dealing with these situations, and maybe the fact that people are just insane."


Hmmm, I wonder what people think about Guitar Hero and actualy playing a guitar.
 

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Well apparently much like anything else people tend to play scape goat when trying to figure out why some did something. Let's take it this way lets assume that most people believe whatever they do they aren't being evil or that evil doesn't exist instead lets blame something that children enjoy and make it seem like it's more about what children do that makes us evil rather then us just being evil!

Basically these kids are evil! Society likes to believe in what they see not what they cannot see... There is true evil in the world and like anything else it grows like vines on the sides of buildings and spreads throughout the land! Blame it on Ice Cream and Cookies while your at it because I am sure someone got killed over that somewhere but you'll never hear anything major about that because Grandma doesn't go around shooting terrorists on Counter Strike! Or Does She??

I say screw those who go blaming video games for life's miserable bastards!
 
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CoZmicShReddeR";p="13061 said:
I say screw those who go blaming video games for life's miserable bastards!
Amen brother. Oh another thing,
 

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He got what he deserves. He is a big hipocrit, accusing video games for the reasons there is so much hatred and violence. I wonder if he ever thought that people like him that cause other people to hate each other.
 

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Jack Thompson has lost his license to practice law.
Well when you see someone running down the street with shit stained underwear tell Jack to watchout for the Gamers, because just about every anyone he will look to hire him for a job out there now a day has played or plays GTA4!

About all my boses and co-workers own a XBOX360 and PS2/PS3 where I work and are my age and they all play video games to unwind after a long day of facing reality! :p ?:eek: ?8O ?8O
 
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Mustard";p="13058 said:
Now there is one "exception" (and use that term loosely) On February 19, 1997, 16-year-old Evan Ramsey shot and killed the principal and and another student at his high school in Alaska. He said he didnt realize that when you shoot someone they die. He said that because he played video games like Doom hardcore and says he could not distinguish reality from virtual reality. He is now serving a 210 year sentence,
8O

Seriously What the fuck was he thinking? Or rather what was he smoking?
 

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Heh, thats a case of mental retardation right there, Death.
 
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It the kid and his family fault, where he get the weapon anyways?
Most kids usualy get a pistol from their parrents. That or from a friend.
 
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Hell, I may have started playing Duke Nukem at the age of 2, but still I knew reality and virtual reality were very different. I don't see a Hud or anything so ofcourse its reality lol... plus I learned gun safety and was told the consequences for breaking those guidelines. I swear some people give gamers a bad name ?:(
 

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I know what you mean. It took me forever to convince my mom that games weren't what people say they are.
 

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Games DO effect people, just not to the extent that our buddy Jack Thompson says they do, (after playing System Shock 2 for about a week I was hearing those damn exploding robots in my sleep,) I play a lot of first person shooters, but I don't fell MUCH of an urge to gun down everyone at my school, but at the school I went to last year, there were a few people who I wouldn't have minded if they got run over by a train or something, but I think that everyone feels that way about someone they know. So in short, they do but usually its just hearing things in your sleep, people who do go and commit school shootings usually have something wrong with them in the first place.
 
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ShutUp9100";p="13106 said:
Games DO effect people, just not to the extent that our buddy Jack Thompson says they do, (after playing System Shock 2 for about a week I was hearing those damn exploding robots in my sleep,)
Dude, I -know- what you mean. After a week of CoD4 on veteran, I was hearing the damn *tink, tink, tink* of grenades EVERYWHERE.

But yeah, they do, but only a bit. Plus some of them are great, and confer excellent values. Such as the MGS series (Anti-war, can't argue with that).
 
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<div class="bbWrapper">I dont blame it on video games I blame it on the crazy people who actually think like that.</div>
 

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